foreign
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thanks for being here thanks to the
panelists
um I guess let's just kick it off with a
quick ground of introductions um let us
know what you all do
and what the projects you're working for
do
okay so my name is Camila Ramos and a
prophecy was saying you know we all have
like 17 jobs so I'll name the relevant
ones here I'm the head of developer
relations at fuel Labs I'm a core
contributor at women build web 3 which
is what we're going to be focusing on
today from my end and I'm a lifelong
educator I've been in education for
seven years now and that's what I did
before becoming an engineer and then
eventually before kind of transitioning
back into education via devrel
hey thanks for having me my name is
divyanshu I work at the folio where we
have built the biggest web3 Dev
community in India we do a bit different
programs such as hackathons fellowships
we do grants and a bunch of other stuff
we are also co-host of eth India which
is scheduled to be the biggest uh web 3
ethereum hackathon in Asia so yeah
hi good afternoon everyone my name is
Ian and I'm from China I'm a Divine
developer last year I build a developer
community in China called adapt learning
which is a sponsored by either in
Foundation twice thanks yeah
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hello I'm Lush I'm here with itu
blockchain which is biggest and first
blockchain Club in Turkey we do lots of
educational and event stuff and we are
granteeing ESP which are open source
bootcamp for smart contract developing
also I'm smart contract developer in
Italian studio and I'm the biggest
supporter of the Constable proposal
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awesome thanks guys
um what got you all motivated to start
an educational series
why is it important to educate
um and how did you all get involved with
it
I can start we as a University Club we
want to be different from the other
University Club in our school in our
country and we want to be a club which
Wheels which produce which makes lots of
beneficial stuff as a public goods and
in first we couldn't do anything because
we are very started at the first times
and first we educated ourselves then we
realized that we need more friends to
Bear build together then we do a few
groups to
make hard people to learn something then
it failed then we thought we should do
more open more accessible content and so
that we can help people to join web 3
development then we we see lots of
people from Turkey are learning with us
then we see we are joining kakatons and
tape only the top tier folks who get
access to premium institutes they get a
lot of opportunities while the other
folks really don't uh also so what we we
thought that some BS what we did was we
started doing our programs and what
really got us into the ethereum system
was the ethos of
decentralization being accessible being
permissionless so we started off with
ethena in 2018 uh and since then we have
done a bunch of eth India online
hackathons uh like I said we have done
fellowships and yeah we have been doing
since then uh we are now at 250 000
Dives in our community so now we're
still going strong and yeah we'll talk
about more about it
okay thank you uh last of May and I will
help my friends to hold a hackson in
China and work that the advisor and
during today's competition I found I'm
fan and found many Developers
there there was a huge gap among the
developers uh
most of them know how to code with
solidity but
many of them do not know the base
components of depth development such
such as using Channing graph ipfs yeah
then
um
few of them know the
famous project scaffold eth which can
save them a lot of time developing their
MLP in hacksaw and so on the surrender
too much time on Google yeah so it is at
the same time my friend Julie who wanted
to learn blockchain so I authorized
authorized to him to learn Dev
development directly yeah if you can
show the save you a lot of time
then
I had the idea to build a open source
project to help developers to learn Dev
development we recorded the open source
project learning directly
so that's my motivation thank you
yeah so women build web 3 is a community
for intermediate and advanced developers
and you know I came from a web 2
background I was an engineer at PayPal
and I kind of started experimenting with
crypto and blockchain development on the
side and when I was ready to dive in
there weren't really that many
communities specifically for my type of
person I found a lot of communities were
onboarding women and we're doing kind of
zero to one stuff and I was looking for
where can I go from like one to ten how
can I actually start building given that
I have all of the the Baseline things to
start and it came together around
web3con which is the hackathon that
developer Dow organizes and we were all
kind of like how do we find teammates
who are women that are kind of On My
Level so we can build something dope and
we realized there really didn't exist
that community and I just happened to
tweet out this was back like six months
ago before I had Twitter followers and I
just happened to tweet is there anyone
who wants to be on my team who's like an
engineer who's a girl I can build
something cool and I expected maybe two
or three people to reach out and maybe
like 45 women ended up reaching out and
being like I want to participate like
I've been looking for something like
like this so that's how we initially got
together we hacked uh we shipped a bunch
of cool stuff and after we looked around
and we're like all right we have this
really cool community of Engineers what
should we do next and as we were
experimenting you know potentially
expanding the program that we built or
the project we bought the hackathon we
realized there really wasn't a lot of
high quality educational resources that
were up to date that weren't like Blaine
shills so there's a lot of you know
platforms out there that have kind of
like their own type of course but they
basically just keep using their thing
over and over and it wasn't we really
couldn't find anything where we could
kind of level up for blockchain
development and as we got together we
decided let's build this open source
course called building full stacked apps
where we walk people through everything
from writing a smart contract writing
API writing their front end doing
off-chain storage and kind of just
getting through the full stack and not
just putting the education out there but
really walking people through it because
our goal was less about teaching you how
to code like we're not going to sit
there and teach you like what a struct
is and what an array is we actually just
give you the code and we kind of focused
on bigger picture thing where it's like
now you have this architectural
reference for how to build adapt and
then you can tweak it and you know go
back and learn the things that you maybe
don't know but now you have this thing
that you can fork and always build
something that works from and uh since
we launched it we we launched it in
English and Spanish over 10 000 lines of
curriculum and over 2500 devs have taken
it so far and that was kind of part one
of our initiative and then we started
thinking okay how can we support the
teams that come from this how can we
like stick to our mission of you know
supporting the growth of developers so
then we worked with the EF and a bunch
of other amazing organizations who
contributed to our project to start an
accelerator where we're deploying 150
000 directly to teams with no strings
attached just to support their projects
and kind of just be like we just want to
give money to people building dope stuff
and that's where we are now we just
accepted our first cohort or the
accelerator like this week and it
launches officially on Monday
that is awesome
um thanks to for everyone
um for the work that you're doing and
for all the people that you've already
on boarded to the space
um it's something that's incredibly
important
so
something that you've all sort of
touched on in in this last part
the title is education across cultures
so how do you all think about
the cultural nuances or the language
barriers or something specific to your
region or Community when creating
educational content
we are trying to prepare our contents
that's how by thinking how we can learn
by these contents
we
had too much time to learn them and
maybe we see lots of contents and we can
combine them and create the contents
like how we can learn and
our friends are similar to us and how
they can learn it's one of the key
are what we try to do also we prepared
our lots of contents coding comments or
namings are in English we are not
pushing them to doing everything in
Turkish just we are trying to
tell what is the main reason on what we
are doing that and it's just only
Turkish parts we are preparing them to
do really sexual stuff and
have done by their native language as a
Banning to barriers
so um thankfully like we don't have to
translate language of the content given
that ending in India English is uh
normally speaking and also the language
of education but how we go about
educating folks and onboarding them to
web3 is and our motto is never stop
building so how we go about it is even
in our fellowships where we take them
through a curriculum everything is
focused on building so every module has
a task where you have to build something
out and the entire eight week course
finalizes
culminates into a final building Sprint
so as long as a building we believe if
you build you'll learn so that's what we
have been focusing on as so any any
program that we do is kind of centered
around building projects
okay
most content over our GitHub is here uh
Chinese yeah fighter I want to want to
introduce is that our government rules
that is very interesting we attract most
of the Chinese excel in the developers
and oversee Chinese developers yeah
our so first of all or
our community is a non-profitive
organized organization yeah core members
are driving by interested in a patient
yeah we we have funded
by Grant and the donation brand such as
either information Foundation granted
coin Grant donations such as
Chinese famous projects like blueprint
squirrel novels yeah
uh our governments has three points uh
the first one is that
people who submit a poor request or give
a shiny meeting in our community can
join our developer group
so
it helped me got gather many talented
developers in our community and to have
us Build Together yeah it is the same
time they can enjoy high quality
communication with other developers so
the second one is that with more and
more developers join our community with
data limit of
120 people
but we build a new communication
communication group that there is no
thread and Resort yeah
the last one is interesting one that
we are a high quality qualified
developers so many
many guys wanted to authorized or
other other otherwise
or poster or recruitment in our
community so we
we at the rules that you must submit uh
you must keep a sharing machine
yeah to show your technology level
yeah okay you can send a recruitment
Post in your community yeah that's the
one thank you
yeah I think for us
um we ship like I said initially
everything in English and Spanish and
that was important to us to not have it
be later translated as like a second
thought but rather you know we want to
be inclusive and obviously like that's
not every language in the world we're
not impacting all the developers in the
world and you know the culture of our
community is shaped by those in it and
it just so happens that some of our core
contributors are Latino so that's how it
worked out that way but I think there's
a really special kind of nuance about
Latin America that isn't really
understood by developer communities
focus in North America and Europe is
that similar to kind of hacker culture
20 30 40 years ago before computer
science was really something that you
could take in school
people who learned how to code just like
learn on their own they were hackers so
you know right computer science people
weren't always academics and it's a
similar story in Latin America where if
you're a coder
it runs the possibility that you
actually don't speak English because you
might not have gone to college you might
have just learned how to code by
yourself and for us that's like a huge
problem because we're missing out on all
of the talent that is actually good
engineering talent but everything is in
English so that's something that we keep
in mind where in Latin America the way
it kind of works is that if you go to a
good school and if you go to university
and you get the privilege of being
educated you probably know English
because they teach it in school but if
you come from you know that background
where you're not offered that
opportunity but you somehow get to teach
yourself how to code which that in and
of itself is a huge feat uh where like
we as a community are giving them more
blockers where everything's in English
all of the ethereum conferences are in
North America and Europe where they
can't get Visas so this year for me was
really special to see Defcon be in
Colombia this is where I'm from but
outside of that East Global also focused
online America this year doing a bunch
of hackathons here for the very first
time and I think just this was a really
good place for us to get together
because I think more people are starting
to think globally and I are starting to
think about the
what happens when we don't think of
others and not just from a moral
perspective like we should do this
because it's good because we should but
we should do this if we want Innovation
and if we want the best talent from all
over the world we have to be able to
reach them
and
um what do you think needs to happen for
us to reach more people either globally
or in your local communities what is
something that's missing that we need to
reach and educate more people
from the secretary
hey
okay when some newcomers see some
experts from the sector for example some
good developers from ethereum they are
more willing to do something or they are
more willing to learn something I think
some events or hackathons or little
educations that focused on some little
regions can be more effective to
take more newcomers to the Real Worlds
I think the answer is pretty straight
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F it's not scalable for us to be like
we're gonna go to every country and do
an eth hackathon and like you know try
to translate everything in Spanish it's
more sustainable to instead Empower
people who are already leaders in their
communities give them money give them
resources give them support and just let
them do their thing and that's exactly
what we've like Ito is a great example
of that they are from Istanbul and they
just decided like hey we want to see a
change they got support from the EF and
other people and now there's a growing
Community to the point that Devcon might
be there next year like simply because
this one group of kids decided that they
wanted to start this community and you
know a community like us happened to get
behind them so just give money
I agree
um so giving EF has been great uh giving
support to all the programs and
everything that has been happening
across the globe uh but also heading to
his point I think we need more Advocates
uh we need more Educators uh and the
reason why also we are
calling because Asia's biggest ethereum
hackathon is uh there are not a lot of
events happening there like Camila
mentioned it's a lot of events in North
America now in latam as well uh but not
that much in let's say Asia so the idea
is to bring bring in more Advocates
bring in more exposure and I think for
further stf has been great supporting us
okay
our community is another or only a
developer Community we also translate
MIT open course blockchain and money and
third by grandstiller
FCC chairman yeah it's a very wonderful
course that we translated to Chinese and
summarize it yeah to help more people to
know blockchain and the website yeah
uh once more we we also
translate the uh solving interviews this
book yeah is also a very wonderful book
help to help people know
cryptocurrency here
so so this is the way we attract the
many unknown developers to join our
community okay
another
where does it work yes it does what are
some of the biggest
no I was just testing testing testing
so uh what are some of the biggest
challenges that you have faced in
getting to this point and how do you see
your projects evolving moving forward
like I said uh so what we do is we work
with a bunch of Educators and mentors uh
it has been a challenge to find a lot of
them are folks like Austin Griffith and
Patrick Collins have been of help but I
don't think we have enough so I would
ask people to get more into education
and get more into education advocacy
um but for for our community couple of
challenges that have been there
um one is that in India while web3 and
ethereum is going mainstream in the dev
Community it's still not going
mainstream for the for the for the end
users so oftentimes what we see is uh
the devs who are building for the
community whose building is not the end
user so that's a problem that we have
faced and we are kind of trying to solve
for and again with web 3 and with the
ethereum uh a lot of folks are in it for
I would say not the right motivations so
we have been kind of focused on finding
that right signal compared to all the
fluff that is in the ecosystem so that's
something that we have been trying to
tackle and focus on
I think two biggest challenges are
motivation and sustainability we should
motivate our Educators to to do
something
in continuous way they should do their
responsibilities on time it's one of the
biggest problems and
how we are dealing with them is showing
some results some we are showing
some people who learned with us showing
our resource in some other places and
the sustainability
on about that we we cannot do everything
in each year we some new Commerce should
take our place and give some
more better things than us if we can
find some newcomers and we can help them
to do some real things
it will be great and we are dealing with
damage doing more educations more
meetups more workshops and I can't say
we deal with both of them but we are
working and we are
talking with our friends to how to deal
with them
there are two challenging so we have we
are fancy now the first one is that how
to internationalize our community yeah
we are not the only one to be a local
community but also meet the global
developers yeah we we have invited the
many and famous uh projects
uh developers to give a shiny meeting in
your community like
Stockwell infra and Mina yeah
but you know
I'm Fender interested in phenomena is
done in China and I see many talented
developers who are good at math and
coding but uh their English is another
so well yeah it is
is there limited yeah
so we are trying our best to do
translating our project and imagine more
uh International project to give us any
meeting the the second one is that with
our
projected motor military accumulating uh
is becoming more random more harder for
for newcomers to join us to to make a
contribution and
uh becomes a cone contributor yeah
yeah we never wanted to be a community
that was funded by grants because that's
just not sustainable and we actually
came together around April like Peak
bull market and it was really easy to
get support from organizations but we
kind of knew that just wasn't the path
we wanted to go out so we had this idea
to be a service down where we would do
Deborah and that's kind of how this idea
of the open source course that we did
came from or like you guys need Deborah
you can't hire devrel we're Educators
who are willing to you know create this
content as a public good so pay us for
it and that's what happened and it went
amazing but now things have changed
companies it turns out you actually have
to keep working to do it and we're like
wow we just did six months of work to
build this course we're exhausted we
don't really want to do this again
because where is the time to then work
on our own skills and kind of tend to
the mission that we first set out to be
um so for us I think we're thinking
through how can we sustainably stay
alive and fund our core team who's
working and you know make sure that
they're taking care of fun all the
things that we need to pay for which
which aren't much right it's like but we
do need money to continue the projects
that we're doing and
um it's really a matter of like how do
we split up our limited time between
being a service now and making money to
sustain ourselves and then actually
serving our members and serving
ourselves by using that money and
putting it to use and in this first
iteration that looks like the
accelerator but now we're kind of like
all right we're gonna spend all the
money in our treasury which is good that
was what we wanted we wanted to deploy
all the money uh the goal is not to
build up a huge Treasury and just have
it the goal is to deploy and now we're
thinking through how do we do this again
without doing six months of work because
that was scary and it was a lot of work
and you know I mean imagine it was a
team of like 30 people working 10 to 20
hours a week for four and a half months
to deliver to deliver like the highest
quality content in English and Spanish
and then like coordinating speakers
coordinating
um the VCS that we wanted them to talk
to coordinating the supporters according
the mentors so that's kind of our
problem is like what what's next for us
how do we do it sustainably and still
stay true to our mission
that you said I guess is how do you all
think of forkability and open sourcing
the content and everything that you're
working on
yeah no all our stuff is open source we
encourage people to make PRS against it
keep it up to date as a community part
of our treasury goes to paying our
contributors to make sure that that
stays up today because obviously we
don't want to be those projects we were
kind of trying to solve the problem for
which is that there is a lot of
education but if you leave it alone for
a month it's already out of date if you
leave it alone for a week it's probably
already out of date and when you build
something like we did with literally
like six or seven protocols that thing
like you need to work on it every day if
you want it to still work so it's open
for contributions women build web 3 on
GitHub go update it
when we start to create our contents we
have a few promises between our team one
is being free and never accept any money
from our Learners and other one is being
open source to be
to reach more Audience by our contents
if if someone can fork or education and
do something better we will be really
happy also if someone use our content
and makes another content it's really
good for us it shows our work is really
beneficial and we can reach lots of
people with them
and we always think everybody can use
our education everybody can
add our education to their contents also
we get some offers to add our educations
to their learning schedule and we say
it's it's not hard it's only open source
and it's
every once and we are open for
everything
quite a while uh our fellowship
curriculum is not open source right now
uh we are planning for it we want to
open source it currently it's maintained
by our team which is a task but yeah the
plan is to open source it so the
communicate Community can drive it and
yeah we can go from there
in my opinion
yeah
is necessary our if someone wanted to
join our community you can a poor
request yeah our core contributor we
have you your perfect question and merge
or not yeah
uh yeah if someone wanted to give a
shiny meeting in our community you just
write down your schedule on our Google
doc and we will arrange your meeting for
you yeah so it's very decentralized and
easy for compilation yeah and so the
second one is we are trying our best to
translate our content into English yeah
we force our developers to learn English
too yeah
yeah so as someone working spending most
of my time on an open source project
which is ethereum.org
um I can also say that open sourcing
stuff can lead to
massive improvements a lot of why
ethereum.org is a great resource is
because anyone can contribute to the
code or the content or the design or the
translations
um all the aspects of it really so
um yeah
um I think we're approaching time does
anyone else have any questions
I'm coming
um hi hello
thank you for this panel I really agree
with most of the thing that the panel is
said
um so I just want to like a bit
background weird group of uh Farsi
speakers that we studied in 2014 and
working on blockchain education and
non-prof all non-profit we even like
translate ethereum.org to Farsi and one
of the main challenges we have is we
never got any reply from any of the
funds you know EF included just because
of the keyword Iran I think
and we even got our Bitcoin grants for
non-profit education done by women
blockchain Farsi and suspend that just
because of the keyboard Iran and we're
really challenging we're self-funded for
the last eight years
um and I would say it's our last breath
and we really need the support like even
motivational support just like saying
hey we got like you guys
doing well or something and not even
just funds um just want to say this is a
unique challenge we're facing and I
really want the community to talk about
this rather than just
um do the sanction treatment which is
that not do not engage and
um yeah that's maybe
thanks for bringing that up really thank
you
um
I don't follow I don't have any rules so
apply for a grant through women build
web three uh we deploy Capital directly
to teams doing cool things like you guys
so happy to talk after I'm sure the EF
team
I don't know what their response is but
I'm sure you could talk to someone in
person today and I'm sure they're super
grateful for all of your contributions
and yes let's please talk after this
anybody else have anything to add
Rob
uh I was wondering uh
do you find there's like a
content like the subjects of the
examples of your tutorials or your or
the technology in your tutorials that
are uh culturally specific or motivating
uh like something in one culture
wouldn't work in another in terms of the
examples
we also thanks farther up are one of the
first tutorials in our club was with
rope from remix and thank you for again
um we are preparing the our contents
like thinking how
its benefits to persons to work in a
global project and create a global
impact with their knowledge so we don't
do any cultural specific contents but
we think cultural specific things
only on thinking about how our friends
can learn by our contents
we don't do any cultural specific things
by like geographic region but as a
community of women and non-binary people
we have noticed and through just my
career as an educator I've noticed work
that has to do with improving real
humans lives is what writes to
generalization okay but women tend to be
more interested in things like that
where it's like we an example of I don't
know minting a token
hasn't really been that impactful but
when we talk about how this can actually
affect real people in real communities
people are a lot more excited about that
in our community specifically so for our
course for example instead of doing some
like Financial use case which is good uh
the group kind of decided to do this web
3 version of Eventbrite if you know the
platform it's like an event creation and
management platform and then from there
all the teams that have applied to the
accelerator and I know because I've read
the applications they're all like
solving real world problems and then
it's just funny as like a hackathon
judge and an educator then you go to
like a hackathon and see the projects by
men and it's like one thousand percent
yield farming
cryptodigbutt.com it's like all the
craziest things so not like region
specific but I do think there's like a
cultural piece there amongst like women
versus men
thank you we have one more over here
two minutes um
last year also we worked on creating
some learning content and I have some
credentials uh working with a community
of close to 17 000 developers so just a
suggestion for all of you to think about
the framework in which you're building
your learning content in communities so
the way we looked at it is running is
not a standalone Silo like you know you
have in the web pre World specifically
if you are looking at making Learners
weapery Builders uh you should look at
it as
learn collaborate build and earn all the
four are important uh you know if you
want uh your learners to get tangible
outcomes
so the most important thing here that a
lot of people live out is a collaborate
part how can you look at your learners
immediately finding something Avenues to
collaborate with people and working on
so typically learning starts a lot of
people attempt the 101s but beyond that
you know the real stuff fun starts when
people start looking at intermediate to
Advanced uh learning that's where you
start building and for that you know
when you have a group of people
collaborating as they can build they can
start building great stuff and this is
where contributing to the ecosystem
getting some grants all those things
come into picture
so when you are looking at now uh
improving or expanding your communities
please look at the collaboration part
and it will take it'll contribute to the
entire ecosystem in a large way
well actually that is something that
you're right that works very well uh
because for our fellowships we're
usually on board 25 to 50 divs and what
we have seen is after the cohort as well
this check to the whatever communication
medium they are at and it's great where
they are bouncing off ideas they're
building stuff together so collaboration
is also a key part I think
we don't have card storage stations in
the terms but we have small developers
group in our university community and we
are trying to
motivate them to build something
together this can be a little groups
projects or this can be attending some
online or physical hackathons and we do
the earn part by
motivating people to when they create
something beneficial for the club for
the community they will get its
Revenue by
earning the profits of earning the
grants of the
are all of the stuff all of the
education by maybe going another
hackathon in another country maybe
reaching some educational content
it's
our way to motivate people to
collaborate and earn something
thank you I think we're just about time
now and before you guys leave I just
wanted to have two quick announcements
well and one other thing
Luca didn't get to introduce himself
whenever he started this panel and I
just want to mention that him along with
the ethereum.org team has been able to
get the website translated into 50
languages
um I mean I mentioned that earlier on
her talk but I just think that's an
amazing feat snaps there