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so I'm electron and I'm going to be
talking about some work
or the accreditation sort of like it's
not particularly glamorous or quite as
kinda necessary work to get like
sq it like making sure we have a kind of
decentralized Larry talked a little bit
about about the problem probably what
spent too much on that assignment they
are familiar but and I'm going to talk
about what we know so far and what the
next steps are
okay so this is like a parody created a
background
I'm actually really excited about this
in particular because it's one of those
things that is pretty obviously
different on change which is exactly my
option like in privacy in particular you
really don't want people to see what
you're doing and so trusting someone to
mix your plans like trusting a soccer
ball or some Tyga
makes for a completely different user
experience as something that is
completely trust us and you're like
buying a comic book site so just just
real quick overview how these things
work you put money into the contract and
then say oh I see you are a DC and the
wife who I am and then later a crime
from another address in jeopardy proof
as their knowledge group that says you
are one of those people
about saying that one that entitles you
to some of that with you
and so to someone looking you know some
of you might get like a chance or so
quick that look against in the network
and kind of analyze like whose money is
whose baby for $10,000
so every operative
so realign the layers at all or even
necessary so one of the main things that
I've heard that people want to do is
happening for it is funding addresses
that are not associated with any of the
addresses in current you know with you
so you can like interacted Emily so in
this case let's say a is long addressed
a perhaps how they're dressed on a fun
date crime and you put money in a crime
that has to withdraw money with this
they're not proof but I they have
therapy and so that is that's what
really come in says this also isn't like
any like it's like many many projects
apply with many transactions
transactions traction the idea is for
certain things you might want a third
party to run transaction tree so this is
what that you kind of like transaction
boat looks like so a lot of my name the
contract presents a sign transaction BRE
layer and then once a transaction on the
graph and then all the course that
transaction when it comes out to gate
crime and not picture but some of that
money
this is kind of the case I try to make
because that's the central relayer
defeats part of the purpose of the
trustus mixer and a lot of the projects
all of implementers some of that here
right now are obviously shipping with
the singles then for mixer reaches I
think you know when you're shipping them
you kind of run a ship like the parts
that you really want to test initially
so it makes sense maybe not to do like a
fully featured they had lunch but an act
like a single a single real eros that's
to problem someone from a user
perspective if you know that the company
running the relay is the same as their
company kind of like serving your client
code or interacting for the mixer
there's no way for you to know that
there isn't some communication going on
there or even more kind of variously
than like the relay or some
communication going on behind the scenes
like from deep web service certain
client goes are you later and if there's
like some pattern and how like the time
between deposit and withdrawal like in
the client goes and the relay might go
figure out who you are
another thing is obviously if you have a
single
make sure this censorship issues with
artificially high fees so ideally we
would have many related survey so that
is what we're trying to solve a
surrogate it's we're currently in the
front in the process of integrating with
one mixer we're looking integrated with
everyone else so it's like pretty I was
a pretty alpha stage but the ideas are
that like anyone like you or I could
just run like a docker container that
isn't really there and you can really be
a part of this network any existing
mixer doesn't need to change their
contracts any way to use this and just
has to change the client code like
change literally install NPM package a
change on the fly everywhere
so this is this part of I'll kind of go
over the main parts of what this is my I
might try to actually speed through this
little it's a little little technical
and and we've more time for questions
well this is kind of like analog the
previous diagram we looked at where
you've got like someone is trying to
interact with the mixer you know makes a
contradictory layer and we're adding
these four components the really deep
parts are the clients which is like an
NPM package they put in a wallet or
mixer client code the daemon which is
just like a kind of the server of the
real heir essentially and then two more
contracts enter necessary what sort of
service and discovery mechanism for real
layers as well as like transaction for
in these we have like our first we've
kind of been doing some research into
the right way to do reputation
particular and so we have like a first
elimination bisetta the for also talking
with the gas station network to see if
anybody down and they may actually is
that filling filling that world
so first we've got clients so some
clients main role is find relate or some
community reputation contractor and so
like let's say this is just a client
this is a user so this is also where
like would say the wallet code or the
mixer client code in your browser on
your mobile and so through our library
it talks it figures out where your
layers are and it allows me submits
transactions to those doors and this is
like structured pretty simply together
everybody can see is just like and then
can package and right now I have an
example of getting the best reader idea
perfect dress or something but that's
designed to be very very simple so that
says the damage so really what we're
going to share like a reference sort of
API that this should expose to properly
communicate the client we're also
releasing like a representation of this
that does so much fancy stuff recognize
extra stimulation but this is something
that technically like anyone can create
that custom customer drop you know if if
this becomes like a highlight you
wanna create like really high
performance then use that look at the
network and make sure you're not getting
power and stuff like that right now we
do some very basic like transact also so
basically what happens in the current
version this code is for any transaction
it's signaling that transaction sees how
how much running that transaction
changes your own be felt and it looks
like a beyond a certain amount basically
lights of it and I it's super simple
this if your doctor installed it's
literally turning this designs of that
like anyone could run it would be really
cool alike like random people run their
layers oh yeah this is this is these are
the two critical pieces for the spec
there is a mother there are some other
there's father ground routes but
basically like for my gated
like to tell clients new charges
okay
and so finally this last fluffy switch
or word of everything right so the idea
here that there's the reason we wanted
to start we want to come like great this
set of abstractions that talk about
something constants for this it's nice
to have like trust this discovery like
some some like understood mechanism of
you later discovery and but you know
this is something we can play with order
contract very simple and just literally
force for its application practice
and the reputation contracts yeah I can
talk I'd like about this I don't think I
will right now if you want to talk about
it but there's a youth research post I
published a very white hat on this and
just Google or a really just ready
research we are thinking there broadly
it's like you know the more either you
find in service of life in service of
relaying transactions
maybe the higher their reputation is but
there's a lot of parameters so finally
the next steps are you know a big bark
like what I'm trying to do is not talk
to a bunch of major changes talk to wall
teams see how we can integrate this into
existing closed
oh the gas station networks cool so
that's man Twitter at the top and that
is where the repo is for sir again
probably not time for questions from
friends waiting in my fur like a relay
or many partners yes I can do best you
design how you
yeah so he
as everywhere and if you're returning to
London then the front-runner is
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there's sort of a trade-off between
something about a lot I think the answer
is you expect that to factor into the
market it's the first - sorry guys we
got another gash so then we
on the first trial and emotionally then
he doesn't run by the way so that's why
we look ok so that's why he keeps not
improve
oh I see well like the so I didn't
really go into detail this but the
address of the recipient goodness he
goes and it goes in the creek
yeah really yes so because the a
three-layer is one of you puts Narvik
sorry okay yeah we just you mentioned
you can't you can't you can you
literally can't from the same collection
so but that means you have to design
this one attracting away
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prevent runners because of that room you
have to tell the address that's right
and that can exist in the property
or like the thing that surely yeah
that's right so if I may every layer and
now like I say all will relate your
transaction but I don't
yeah so this is there's there's actually
another interesting trade-off here so
like in design you can find logic you
can you can either broadcast to like
every layer and then three layers kind
of like our twist or you can broadcast
to one real layer and the clients kind
of at risk and there's a spectrum of
life choices and and how you choose to
kind of like take your broadcast
strategy essentially retry store energy
that lie along that spectrum we are
opting towards into some limit
this is a new discussion to protect the
client experience so the client logic by
default will try a ton of real layers
and like retry so like there's more
filler risk that real layers get screwed
but we'd rather be competing effectively
right with its parts if it can move it
can rather push the competition to
realize anything a little more expensive
to them that make the client experience
horse but like the really the way you
completely solve the problem is just
like seven to everyone yes so that will
factor into yes it so yeah and there's a
trade-off here and fundamentally what
happens there that's just factors and
select the piece it's like another
possible so once it's - its kind of
yeah
yeah it's it's it's paying for not
having away Jason right that's the same
problem so talk to them as well like
proposal that there might be they have
some sort of Mantle's and they were you
air scared and I'm also they like don't
execute the same
but then
the obvious well it says the way - it
away don't realize on these yeah the
very condition does not share your stuff
yeah so if you say that brochure go he
is the dealer and broadcast the
transaction is something to do to all
three layers so how is this ninja
learning it's every layer they can have
a different feel
don't listen to the only one the good
waiter also excuse my as a customer I
mean every layer chart is a different
and they choose which video images they
woman but then if I just brought a
stranded by the am I expecting like
anything or well only the lowest final
or yeah else might arrange yeah there's
like a bunch like you might say there's
some some credit you can define a
nor'easter success I'm driving and
depending on kind of like how
restrictive
it is like how much cheap and how much
you make changes like I feel yes
other questions
oh how do you do loose track reputation
yeah that's really tricky not obvious
for an answer
one one one mechanism is it just kind of
like have like the kind of naive
mechanism that we've been thinking about
sort of is just
Oh
but obviously
that only distracts the amount of the
membership many times
we use a reputation as the truth
yeah but follow them like they are like
newlyweds everywhere
yeah
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there is a tendency yeah I guess I guess
one thing you could do so right now this
is certainly a challenge
you've been around for a long time
there's a higher chance to discover the
future yeah but the one thing that you
can do is have like some ability to kind
of like react on your might be like you
can use everywhere repetition we can
isn't but enough like every request for
your petition points to choose anywhere
Brendan Samsung yet for Santa client the
others basically the beach around that's
how they sign up next
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exactly it's in this line yes the idea
sander anything else
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I'm not sure what's that memory was but
there was like a reputation contract
site which makes daily
yeah yeah so yeah so again it's purposes
this is I kind of went over these a
little quickly partially because I have
our initial implementation but this
that works like swapping out or maybe
like boxing some other system festering
reputation by a gas station summer
well we complemented is there's like a
portion of each relay that you can chew
the relay race horse of each relay or
meet with the relationships and
the reputations just a function about
the number of times that related
and the most important question is in
production rate almost production spare
cuts of course by the end of the month
I mean we're we're kind of like working
together everyone's sending money yeah
like like when you send either die or
whatever wallets just default bring your
sending which is that the anonymity set
is defined by a comma
the reality is like if you're sending
like st. Anthony your product is
probably not going to ever be a part
and so there's going to be some my guess
is there going to be something like
multimodal distribution around like
which specific like anime be sets are
like really popular no I mean the way it
is like right now the way that say
tornado cache works is that they have a
specific use case which is you're trying
to disconnect the outputs from the
inputs so therefore you have to have
like this enforce same amount on on both
sides you can't
together but if you look at say the Z
cache block chain where they have just a
shielded pool that anybody can send any
amount into and then send that any not
how you know you're you're a nonentity
set beyond everybody who's ever sent on
the interpol and so they don't they
don't enforce like you have to send a
specific amount and a specific amount so
people can set ten thousand even into
this yield pool and then send any
fraction of that ten thousand team
within the show and it's all being is if
they decide to be the poem that they
might need to think about yeah what
their amount that they're sending out
yeah I think the show loophole approach
actually this is what like this is a
probably like you I might fall is doing
like they're kind of great like you know
who knows what they're are going to do
with it
trying to create some standards around a
shitty little contract I think that is
useful for like I almost think of that
as like slightly separate sectors of
markets and mixers by big open question
there and I don't have like an apostille
yes
yes like really really large how's that
effect
is there a combination that scales up
worse than market you can have all the
potions
that amount of training for suspense
like washing fuel in one show
yeah yeah so yeah that's a lot but it's
enough segmentation that mighty small
around deception okay so there's a
trade-off there Tony to kind of like
Esther my opinion upon your question I
think it's going to largely be people
who want to do small amounts to interact
with contracts for mattresses that are
out there so III think it's like small
amount Smith I don't think but
maybe people are betting in a
controversial longer market or exactly
setting up but voting in a concert or
the hours
write down any things that think about
texting back who asks like you want RSVP
but
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there was like this is the other
holdings from the
that all of your answers one about that
is there a reason why you could be a
matter of like breaking the link between
kyc is jean-denis refers to the wall
yeah that's a reality these days
yeah this this you know wasabi has -
wasabi segments based on the amount they
will tell you how we're going to get up
into a point one chumps looks like I
might have time to hold up
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