so hi my name is Bob some oil I'm the
executive director of the etherium
classic cooperative I been in that
position since January I previously
worked at the foundation at consensus on
the enterprise aetherium Alliance where
I work for the set up of that and then I
was the the co-lead architect during
that set up and then I was the secretary
of their technical working group and the
vice chair of the the TSC and I've done
stuff in in hyper lecture as well
and and now I find myself in classic so
I've just said a little bit about what
what what's been happening we really
have a a resurgence within classic right
now where after several years of fairly
inactive kind of status
we've got forward movement again you
know you had the you had the split at
the dow fork there was the the monetary
policy change and disabling of the bomb
and then that was about what what had
happened but what's changed is is really
that we have funding now that with etc'
labs we we have effectively unlike a
joseph Lubin for classic so the way i
describe things is very much like things
were in in aetherium land in 2015 if
you've got a good project idea you have
some money you have some money you have
some money so we're moving and the the
most recent and big thing that we had
was Atlantis so Atlantis was our first
hard fork for quite a long time and and
what happened there was that we we
fought in Byzantium opcodes so classic
is now not very far behind
ETH so for Atlantis we had three clients
with support that's multi goth which is
a downstream of the foundation gap we
had classic death which is a very
ancient code base which was basically
forged at the time of the Dow and then
cobble along for a little bit further
but is essentially in deprecation state
so classic death is not going to make it
to the next fork it's going to be a a
happy retirement for classic death as we
clap it clap it into retirement for its
service but it's time is over parity has
had support for both ET c and e th
throughout so that's not a problem and
and those are the the three code bases
that we've had for atlantis the other
primary code base that there is on
classic is mantis which is from io HK
now at the time that classic started
charles Hoskinson returned into the
classic side and and said that as a
aetherium founder he helped you know
felt a responsibility to support the the
original vision that he felt that that
really he should he should get involved
and help out so he hired a community
manager and he funded
let's talk ECC podcast as well and also
Kevin Lord has done social media and
sort of outreach bits and pieces as well
but they spent two years building a new
code base in Scala which is one of the
the turist they're implants that there
is and apparently is also the lowest
memory footprint and highest
performance but nobody is really aware
of it
within the broader aetherium ecosystem
because it's been a classic only client
so nobody nobody knows about it
work started on that codebase to add ETH
support as well but that team
essentially got source of defunded and
slowed down and stopped as of December
of last year really with Charles
refocusing his efforts on kadhai know
and really sort of half exiting the the
classic ecosystem because of continual
infighting and really feeling that he
couldn't do the interesting things
within classic but he wanted to you know
he can he sort of said if if classic is
just the litecoin of etherium who wants
to do that anyway we recently had the
etherium classic summit in vancouver my
hometown of Vancouver and Charles close
to the end only a few weeks to come
finally agreed that he would come and
speak so Charles had the the closing
keynote and through the conference we we
basically like romanced him back in a
charmed in back in and and really what's
gonna happen there is that you know that
code base is going to be is gonna be
revived so as we go into our forthcoming
hard Forks mantis should be added into
the set of of clients they're so classic
death will be retired and you will have
death and you will have parity and you
will you will have mantas coming in as
well but not just that you will also
have hyper ledger Bisou now you may have
heard of Bisou so BZ was previously
called Pantheon and where that code base
has come from is when I was involved
with setting up the Enterprise a theory
Malaya
myself and Jehan were the co-lead
architects and we did the the tech talk
at the launch event at which I I said so
sure hon is the distributed systems PhD
and I'm the cheerleader so he basically
then has spent the last two years back
inside consensus building a new code
base from scratch so that is
permissively licensed patchy to it is
written in Java and it is a theory main
that compatible also supports cleek also
supports system Istanbul BFT also
supports privacy features and is also
compliant with the EA specification so
it's really like it's all of the stuff
it's all of the good stuff and it's and
it's really something that we've been
striving for I think for about three
years is to get to you know a very high
quality code base in a language which is
you know broadly used under that kind of
Licensing and governance within the
Linux Foundation which basically lets
large enterprises come and engage
because I think really what you want to
have with aetherium clients is is
something like you know Linux kernel
kind of model that you know you start
out well hey here's a project just for
fun but then things get serious and and
and and and basically enterprises start
depending on that stuff and they start
picking up the load you know so you see
the Linux kernel you know the major
contributors are you know they're
they're big companies that that have a
need for that because really what you
want is is you want these big companies
to be doing you know carrying the
engineering load you know you can't have
the get a team with four or five people
carrying the weight of the world on
their back forever like that just isn't
going to work
you need large professional teams and
that's really what started with with
Pantheon so what the classic cooperative
is doing is
is we are funding et Cie support in in
baizhu and it's the very first thing
that's happening within that code being
within hi pleasure so very soon what you
will have is a client which can run if
they're in Maine that et Cie Maine that
kotti Galli or any of these private
scenarios so chain say for doing the
work who did the work on classic to get
that working for Atlantis now to work on
hyper ledger code bases you don't have
to be a hyper ledger member anyone can
work on those but we love fly pledges
that we joined Hydra Ledger as well
we're applying to so hyper ledger for
anyone that doesn't know is a
collaboration project within the Linux
Foundation which is an umbrella for a
set of open-source blockchain
technologies so hyper ledger fabric is
the one that you hear about all the time
that originally came from IBM the
Sawtooth that originally came from Intel
you have borrow which is an EVM but not
main net compatible that was done by Mon
acts you have Iroha and you also have
hyper ledger in d which is a an identity
piece the other thing that we've done is
applied to join the enterprise of
theorem Alliance and what why would we
do that well the fact is that you've
seen announced here at this conference
the the main net initiative where the
etherium foundation and the EEA are
basically working together on spec'ing
out use cases and you know protocol
definitions for use of of the main net
for enterprise scenarios so really the
the specification work that you've had
happening within the EA has primarily
been about private or consortium chains
when we started the EA the vision was
that the main net and and you know
basically private and public these the
would converge and that's where we're
getting to right now and what you'll
what you'll see really with classic
being involved as well is that the
specifications really like the yellow
paper if you look at the yellow paper
the yellow paper assumes that you have
one network in the world
you know everything is F main that hard
you know hard coded block numbers in the
specification and I mean that's not that
is not the way to do a specification of
a technology stack of a protocol you
should really have a modular setup
that's like here is what an aetherium
stack looks like appendix a here is the
definition of an ethe main net here's
the definition of an e.t.c main net
here's the definition of a you know a
private chain running a proof of
authority so we're gonna help with that
another thing that we've done recently
is revived the old website we we had a
maintenance issue one of the first
things that my predecessor at the coop
Anthony lucid II did was commissioned a
Spanky new WordPress website but the
problem with that is WordPress websites
you only your admin can update it so we
didn't really have a good means for the
community to contribute changes back in
the earlier web site that we had was was
based on github and you could just do
pull requests but you know it didn't
look great so what we've done over the
last little while is basically revived
that old website but made it look nicer
and updated the content and the guy who
originally did the web design on that
has just reappeared he actually attended
the summit because he sees everything
happening in classic and is like ooh as
this is quite interesting I'm coming
back so he can come back and help with a
web site because he did it originally
the other problem that we had is
problems of of east-west communication
specifically you know our Chinese
community and and other Asian
communities have been very disconnected
with the West and for China specifically
a primary reason for that is is is the
Great Firewall
so if you are in mainland China you
can't access Twitter you can't access
discord you can't access github and
specifically the communication channels
are a major problem because the discord
and the Twitter that's where all of the
communication happens so what I've done
is well what's the answer well you use
WeChat you use WeChat anywhere in the
world so we now have etc' global comms
channel which is just an open open
WeChat channel where we've gathered all
of the all of the community people from
all of the sides and myself and Yaz and
all of a sudden these these
communication gaps barring time zones
they're done everyone is very
communicative if you can communicate so
we're doing that the other thing that
we're going to do is on that main
website we are adding
internationalization because we also
have this this siloing thing of the
etherium classic dog was English only
and then other communities have built
their own websites but then you know
they don't have they're having to
replicate well here's a tutorial about
how we write a small contract and what
is is classic and so on but by having
that language support within that base
website most countries maybe that's
enough that you just point to a theory
and classic dog and do the the drop down
you know like normal websites like
professional people can do but somehow
we had not done so we're going to do
that and I mean that's not to say well
you have to only use the official
website obviously anyone can do whatever
they like on their own and add their own
pieces but we should have that basic
information available to everyone and
one of the other things that we can have
in there is blog posts so this site
allows you to use simple markdown for
blog posts we have been using medium
medium again blocked by the firewall so
the flow that we will have in stairs
is blog post happening on that website
that's accessible anywhere in the world
probably in English first and then if
you are flipping to one of the other
language choices well you're gonna get
it in English if there isn't a
translation if there is you're gonna get
it in your own language so that's a
pattern which is not only breaching you
know bridging east and west it's also
bridging other communities Italian
German French you know lots of these
country specific ones that they're not
necessarily developers you know that
they are enthusiasts who can probably do
a translation but you know they're there
they're essentially receiving
information you know they're not
necessarily ever gonna be doing protocol
changes or changes to clients but open
open that stuff up the other piece that
we have is that the is that the classic
has signed a contract with Masari
so Masari provide basically high-quality
financial information on on particular
coins and they're they're also showing
developer activity you know where your
repositories are you know how many how
many what you what your transaction
rates are and a lot of information about
how the governance works what legal
entities are involved how decisions are
made what the issuance is and so on
there hasn't been high-quality
information on on classic and and
something as simple as the fact that
we've had sort of messed up repositories
and things have been pointing at
aetherium project where actually the
work is happening in aetherium classic
or in another area you get this false
data saying hey there's no developer
activity there's no being there's no no
commits have happened and that's just
wrong and and and but really having that
public disclosure is something that's
very important to me I've been
maintaining this conflict of interests
statement myself for two years now where
I list essentially all of my financial
arrangements all of my associations all
of my historical salaries my crypto
holdings my
tax filings everything because I think
that in a in a sea of scammers you
distinguish yourself by being
transparent so that's what we've been up
to
we've got pending changes you know I
were basically I think going a fast
follow Istanbul so within a few months
et Cie is going to be caught up and you
know moving between chains is going to
be very trivial and beyond catching up
we're actually going to have you know a
few a few further changes so amazingly
perhaps etc' is actually going to be
objectively better than f1 within a few
months which i think is going to blow
people's minds gas prices will be lower
the bloat will not be there the
irregular state transaction will not be
there and state channels work there's no
need to blow at the l1 because we've got
working state channels now and you know
so I think in a few months time we're
going to be in a in a really great place
and people are going to be very
surprised to say even if you don't have
any ideological alignment it's just
maybe a better deployment choice okay
and there's my time up has anyone got
any quick questions yep so Masari will
have that information generally speaking
I believe we've got a reasonable amount
of transactions but they're primarily
value transfers there is a dap ecosystem
but it's weak and that really is because
these foundational things have been
missing you know when we're at that
point of having those foundations i
think we are going to get an awful lot
of DAP developers supporting both moving
over really because it's easy to do so
and it's gonna be sort of cheaper and
cheaper and better there's lots of
things that are being doing to help that
onboarding some of which terry announced
earlier like like get coin swarm support
with meta masks I think we can get meta
masks really very soon with
some of the changes that they announce
so I think we can have a Moloch Dow for
funding a whole range of things which
you know really should be the story
should be all of the tools that you love
on aetherium same deal on classic so 51%
attacks are possible on any chain that's
the nature of proof of work something
though that I think maybe people don't
kind of clock is that 51% attacks are
not necessarily disastrous to the
network they attack single participants
who have poor trust models Pacific's
specifically usually exchanges you know
in exchange who has received stuff and
and you know release things without
waiting a suitable amount of of
confirmations if you have less hash
power well you you really need to wait
for a lot more confirms before
proceeding I mean that's the source of
stuff that only really generally effects
you know large value transfers if you're
just doing little state changes of you
know Dappy stuff you know just don't
wait a lot of confirms anyway I mean I
guess it's like well you know a bus pass
or whatever it is money it's not hard
money but that's fine you know not
everything has to be rock-hard money so
I think you know the answer is that you
you you are gonna have that security at
the bottom layer and you know you get
less and less as you as you go higher up
and really the thing that is going to
get that security is having more hash
power and that will happen as the
developers come over as more and more
activities happening that attracts the
hash that gets you the security and
there is no other answer than that
really for for powa that's the nature of
it so we have to get the activity when
we get the activity we'll get the we'll
get the hash and we'll get the security
thank you
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